If you’re going to talk about e-learning, you have to talk about Donald Clark. Or better still - talk to him. As the ex-CEO of Epic and current director of Ufi, he has spent over 20 years at the forefront of e-learning and technology in the UK. Sometimes champion of new technologies, sometimes iconoclast, always engaging: teachers and trainers of a sensitive nature may want to look away….

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State of the e-learning nation

In which: we discuss the state of the industry, realise that the King is not dead, wonder about people who write to the Daily Telegraph when you could just ask a ninja instead.

In which: Donald explains why he blogs, why Americans are better bloggers than Brits, and why academics can't hack it at all.

 What's wrong with e-learning part 1: Old and grey designs

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In which: We learn why psychology is more important than sociology in e-learning design, what style means in e-learning, and question the odd worship of 50 year-old theories.

What's wrong with e-learning part 2: When SMEs attack

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In which: We marvel at how a SME can kill a course at fifty paces, why younger SMEs are better, why no SMEs can be great. Bonus track: Why Teachers TV was the worst idea since holiday on ice.